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John Keller
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Swordsmanship Styles
Cinematic Styles
Greetings, one and all! I've posted before about the Duellist styles, and am aware that, while they are inspired by historical and cinematic styles, they are particular to this setting with only passing resemblance to real worldstyles and schools of combat. As an exercise in character creation, I have made PC versions of Fezzik, Vizzini, and Inigo from The Princess Bride, drawing from both the book and the movie. While working on Inigo, it was clear that he should be on the road to mastering multiple styles. This got me to thinking: With what styles would y'all attribute certain characters from the movies The Princess Bride, The Three Musketeers (please specify which version,) Alatriste, and Zorro?
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Carlo Lope
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I would say that Zorro is definitely Aldana all the way. He even dances sometimes between slashes so yeah... I wonder if the style was not created after him.

For Alastriste... he fights with a rapier on his dominant hand and a Vizcaina (A Spanish dagger with a special guard from around XVII century). I would say that his style was more an inverted Ambrogia.. I mean, with the rapier on the right hand and the dagger on the left. This style was used to parry with the rapier and once close, stab with the dagger to the sides. I think it fits Ambrogia perfectly.

Joachim Deneuve...
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This was much easier on the first edition, when there were more, and more distinct, styles.

For example, Tout Pres (Always Ready) was a Montiagne style for fighting with a Fencing Weapon and whatever you could grab, from a chair to a leg of ham.  It was absolutely the style of old movie Musketeers.

John Keller
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Carlo: You're probably right about Aldana being designed because of Zorro. Even though some depictions of his training are more reminiscent of Gallegos from 1st Ed, his execution is always very active and showy. As for Alatriste, I have yet to see the movie in full; can't seem to secure a copy. The description in the first book of the Vizcaina and it's use reminded me of the description of the El Vago style, but I can see Ambrogia working well there, too. Joachim: I agree that a few depictions bear this out, especially Athos' portrayal in Richard Lester's version, as he always seems to be getting disarmed. On the other hand, most versions seem to focus on single sword, and the best ones would give each Musketeer his own style that tells of their character.
Carlo Lope
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I didn't watch the movie but I read the books. I suggested it based on the dueling styles for 2nd edition.

I agree that it resembles the style of El Vagabundo, but I said Ambrogia because of a couple of points.

Alatriste was trained, not only as a Tercio but as a duelist if I remember correctly so a duelist school fits him. Moreover, I remember his style being a bit dirty and practical, which reminded me inmediately of Ambrogia but I can't seem to find how he fought exactly.

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@Carlo: I agree, I would build both Alatriste and his Italian nemesis as duelists.

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